13 June 2025

Operation Spider’s Web and the Future of War

Ravi Agrawal

Drones are changing the very nature of warfare. After playing a salient role in the recent conflict between India and Pakistan, unmanned aircraft stunned the world in Operation Spider’s Web on June 1, when Ukraine struck multiple sites deep in Russian territory. But are technological advances like drones and AI leveling the playing field or giving military powers an even greater advantage?

The answers to these questions are no longer theoretical. With conflicts playing out on multiple continents, the world has suddenly been thrust into the future of war. On the latest episode of FP Live, I spoke with military expert Mara Karlin, a professor at Johns Hopkins University who has advised six secretaries of defense. Karlin helped author and execute the National Defense Strategy in 2022, when she was deputy undersecretary of defense for policy in the Biden administration. Subscribers can watch the full discussion in the video box atop this page or follow the FP Live podcast. What follows here is a condensed and lightly edited transcript.

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